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` MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday, April 26, 2004 7:00 o'clock p.m. • 7. #04 -2993 CHRIS VALERIUS AND PHIL FISK, 2377 SHADYWOOD ROAD — Continued White stated that he did not like the plan which includes a drive - through circling around a home in Orono. He didn't feel it looked good, did not fit there, and no hardship could warrant the request. He reiterated that a drive - through was inappropriate for this site. Murphy agreed, stating that there was no hardship to grant additional hardcover of 10 -20 %. He indicated that he was present during the Planning Commission discussion and found their recommendation to be well thought out. Sansevere reiterated that the city is bound by law to find a hardship to warrant the hardcover request. McMillan stated that, while she could empathize with their desire for a drive - through in the competitive coffee house industry, the logistics of this site just won't work. Mark Cox, 3509 Ivy Place, urged the Council to not lose sight of the fact that the community of Navarre would unlikely support another coffee house. He objected to the applicant trying to skirt the letter of the law, especially when the need is not there and could cause both businesses to fail. While Murphy questioned their choice to locate in Navarre, he stated that no one knows whether one of the shops would fail or not. • Cox reiterated that hardcover, hardship, adequate parking, and the question of the drive - through are great issues. In addition, he asked where a dumpster pad would be placed. U Gundlach stated that the applicants would have parking in the lot behind the site; however, the hardcover and setback variances would still apply. She indicated that adequate square footage would remain for the dumpster pad if the applicant's were granted the plan without the drive - through. Jeremy Thompson, Mound resident, stated that as a customer of Lake Country Coffee, he believed that a drive - through would be a great plus and advantage for him. He pointed out that Culvers has a drive - through that circles the entire building and he didn't feel this should be such a big issue for this odd house. Fisk added that most McDonalds have drive - through lanes that circle the entire building past their entryways. Mayor Peterson polled the Council members and found that none objected to the first request for the addition; however, all objected to the second request for the drive - through and parking setback. McMillan felt that the applicants would need more than three designated parking spaces upfront. Fisk maintained that during their peak hours of 5a.m. to 9 a.m., use of the shared parking lot would not be problem. He did not feel they would require any dedicated parking. PAGE 7 of 12