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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Monday, August 25, 2003 <br />• 7:00 o'clock p.m. <br />PUBLIC COMMENTS <br />While not on the agenda, John Jones, 3490 North Shore Drive, asked to present the process he'd <br />endured in an attempt to build a new home. While he had since received his permit, Jones <br />explained that the biggest problems he faced during the planning process were the height restriction <br />and lack of a 2 '/2 story dcfnition. Originally, Planner Paul Weinberger assisted Jones in his <br />planning, acknowledging that the City did not possess a'' /2 story definition. During a Planning <br />Commission meeting, Jones explained that Gaffron used a definition from an architectural guide <br />and an example from Edina's code, which allowed 60% living space above 5' in height; whereas, <br />40% of the story needs to be below 5' high for the half story. Jones showed overheads depicting <br />what was approved. He pointed out that Edina's code excludes the stairway from the calculation; <br />however, when he attempted to pick up his permit from Orono, Orono indicated that they would <br />not exclude the stairway from the calculation. Jones questioned why, if Orono had no definition of <br />its own, and used Edina as its model, why the stairway would not be excluded, similar to the code <br />they quoted. <br />White asked what size home they were proposing. <br />Jones indicated that the home fit a mere 1300 s.f. footprint. While he understood the City's desire <br />to restrict massing, Jones pointed out that discussions regarding this small home have been ongoing <br />for over a year with the City. <br />• Murphy asked Jones to identify the specific issue he had with the process. <br />Jones explained that, since the City has not defined its definition and adopted that of Edina's and <br />the architectural guide, he did not know how to go about applying for a variance. He stated that he <br />has not requested any height variance, and does not wish to do so; however, Jones would like to <br />alter the space on the half story to exchange the unlivable stairwell space for livable space. In <br />addition, the building inspector told him he must enclose the half story deck and cuuiii A as living <br />space. Jones asked the Council to acknowledge that the plan he had submitted met code and <br />complied with the 30' height limit and pseudo half story definition, pulled from Edina's ordinance <br />and the architectural guide. <br />Charlotte Lipa, 3490 North Shore Drive, pointed out that the half story definition referred to by the <br />Planning Commission and Gaffron was never added to the zoning code. She voiced her frustration, <br />after running in circles and having done additional research of other community's codes over the <br />past year, Lipa asked the Council to come to some type of resolution for them. Since no code <br />exists, no building inspector seems to be able to sign off on their request, nor do they know how to <br />ask for a variance to get what they want. <br />Jones added that, during the planning process, they came before the Planning Commission 3-4 <br />times with different plans based on different requirements thrown at them each time they came <br />before the Commission. <br />Lipa reported that, after many weeks and many calls waiting for the building inspector to review <br />their permit application, it wasn't until the day before her excavator was scheduled when she <br />showed up to pick up the permit that Oman flagged their permit saying they did not meet the <br />• definition they were given for the half story. <br />Page 5 of 14 <br />
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