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MINUTES OF THE <br /> ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING <br /> Monday,November 15,2004 <br /> 6:00 o'clock p.m. <br /> (#04-3060 MICHAEL AND DONNA EBERTZ,CONTINUED) <br /> stated in his opinion the slope could be maintained without a wall. Rahn noted according to the history of <br /> the property, a similar project was earlier denied. <br /> Leslie inquired whether that would mean everything above the rip-rap. <br /> Rahn noted there is rip-rap and then a couple courses of wall that would remain. Rahn noted the upper <br /> tiers have been removed already. Rahn stated he would prefer the lower wall at a 3 to 1 slope to make the <br /> area appear more symmetrical. Rahn inquired whether it is Staff's intent to recommend the upper tier not <br /> be constructed. <br /> Curtis indicated that it is. <br /> Gaffron stated in his view the lower wall may need to be there to some extent since it is located right at <br /> the edge and that without the lower wall there may be some difficulty with erosion. Gaffron indicated he <br /> would prefer not having the wall above the rip-rap at all, with the City's Comprehensive Plan supporting <br /> avoiding as many walls as possible near the lakeshore. Gaffron stated the question is whether the 3 to 1 <br /> slope can be achieved without the lower wall. <br /> Rahn inquired whether Staff has determined if the lower wall is necessary. <br /> Gaffron stated it appears that a grassy slope could be accomplished above the lower wall but that it may <br /> not be possible below the lower wall. <br /> Rahn stated in his opinion the top course could be removed. <br /> Kitz stated the northern end of the lot is very steep. <br /> Gaffron concurred that the northern end is steep,but stated at the place where the two walls come <br /> together at the north end may require a second tier to maintain the existing vegetation. Gaffron suggested <br /> removing the upper wall and doing some filling to recreate the hump that originally existed in the area. <br /> Gaffron indicated the Comprehensive Plan recommends restriction of retaining walls except in those <br /> areas where they are necessary to prevent erosion. <br /> Jurgens stated in his opinion the wall was built to achieve a flat area. <br /> Kist stated it was. <br /> Jurgens inquired why the rip-rap is not being extended further north. <br /> Kist stated she is unsure. <br /> PAGE 14 <br />