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MINUTES OF THE <br /> ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING <br /> Monday, September 21, 2015 <br /> 6:30 o'clock p.m. <br /> Berg stated it is very difficult to get out onto Kelly at certain times of the day. <br /> Thiesse stated the City will need to look at how that can be fixed. <br /> Wasmoen stated the Shadywood parcel has 12 units on it and the Kelly side has six units. Wasmoen <br /> stated the other option is to take one of the units that face Kelly and place it on the other side <br /> Barnhart stated he would prefer to collect comments from the Planning Commission and perhaps take <br /> public comments tonight and then bring the sketch plan back. Barnhart stated he has heard concerns with <br /> density near Kelly Avenue,traffic issues onto Kelly, and the height of the buildings from Kelly. <br /> Wasmoen asked if they could have a review of the plan by the fire marshal. <br /> Barnhart stated it can be reviewed but that he would hesitate to make the plan too detailed at this point <br /> until there is some understanding of the position of the City Council. Barnhart stated he wanted to get the <br /> Plam�ing Commission's first impression of the pla�� and that the plan will be fine-tuned. <br /> Wasmoen stated a review by the fire marshal would resolve the issue of whether access t Kelly will be <br /> allowed. Wasmoen stated in his experience with the fire marshal he will want this to be a through street. <br /> Berg stated limiting the number of cars that could access Kelly would be an option. <br /> Thiesse noted Orono has a number of cul-de-sacs, and asked whether a cul-de-sac could be constructed in <br /> this situation. <br /> Gaffron stated the majority of the cul-de-sacs are located in the rural areas and that he does not know on <br /> which side the fire marshal will weigh in on. <br /> Schoenzeit stated he would show it with a cul-de-sac if they really do not want a through street. <br /> Leskinen suggested also approaching Hennepin County regarding access to Shadywood. Leskinen stated <br /> if they are not able to get access onto Shadywood, that would dramatically change the plan. <br /> Leskinen noted this is a sketch plan review and that typically a public hearing is not required but that <br /> there are a number of people in the audience that may wish to comment on the proposal. <br /> Barnhart stated it would not necessarily be a public hearing but that the Planning Commission could hear <br /> public comments. <br /> Chair Leskinen stated she would allow public comment at this time. <br /> Ralph Kempf, 3675 Togo Road, stated as it relates to concerns about traffic in the neighborhood, he <br /> would note that in the mon7ing traffic is usually going toward Excelsior and Highway 7 ar Hi�hway 15. <br /> If someone is going to Minneapolis, going out on Shadywood is not going to work since they would not <br /> be able to make that left turn. Kempf stated what someone will be able to do is go down to Kelly, not <br /> drive through the neighbarhood but take a right, go by the grocery store, and then merge with a right turn <br /> onto 15. Kempf stated the cars will not go all the way throu�h the Kelly neighborhood. <br /> Page 39 of 46 <br />