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D�IINUTES OF THE <br /> ORONO PLANNLNG COMIVIISSION MEETING <br /> Monday,May 18,2015 <br /> 6:30 o'clock p.m. <br /> Lemke stated the other concern is with future development of the prairie and that it could be changed by <br /> the homeowners association. <br /> L,andgraver commented that could be a game changer. Landgraver noted when ti�is development was first <br /> presented to the Planning Commission, it was proposed as a preserve and now the Planning Commission <br /> is hearing that it is not a preserve and could potentially be phase two of the development Landgraver <br /> stated Mr. Sticlrney mvst have a legal reason why h�is being coy about it,but that if this is just stage onc, <br /> he would have a concern with tha� <br /> 3tickney stated he is right on a lot of points. Stickney stated if that was the case,he would hsve <br /> submitted a 30-lot development. Sticicney stated these are more than canforming lots that cvnffiin <br /> wetlands. Stickney stated someone could foUow all the City's ordinances and have 18 Lots within the <br /> prairie,which woUld not look very nice. <br /> Lemke stazed thst could happen at a future date without any legal protection. <br /> Sticlrney sffited that is comect. Stick�ey stated he does not want to see the 181ots in the prairie. Stickney <br /> statsd ho could also create one more lake lot and easily conform as well as tt�row nine lots in the prairie <br /> hut that it would look awful. Stickney indicated he will do some fine-tuning basad on the comments <br /> tonight <br /> Schoenzeit smted the City has seen so�or�e nice plans but at the presecrt time,from a long-term comfort <br /> level,there is a little too much hand waving and the details of the covenants,easements, and restrictions <br /> are not part vf the prelinainasy plat discussion,which is a concern. Schoenzeit stated in his view the three <br /> lots that are in the Big Woods should come closer to the prairie. Schoenzeit stated in some ways the <br /> prairie is thc red herring of this discassion and that a lot of work has gone into saving tt�at, but it is really <br /> the Big Woods�at need to be preserved. <br /> Lenake noted a prairie is a six-year project and$Big Waods is a 100-year project. <br /> T'hiesse stated the one prohlem ho has witf�that sta.tement is that the owner of the property right now is <br /> the one who wants the houses up there and the prairie protected. Thiesse noted that is the right of the <br /> property owner. <br /> Schoenzeit stated it is the City's job to use its clout, influence and regulations to sbeer the dovalopment in <br /> the best possible diraction. <br /> Thiesse stated he would need to be convinced that the current proposal is not. <br /> Leskinen stated this proposal has been improved from�e sketch plan phase but that there is still some <br /> work to be done. Leskinen stated the ordinances iun Orono will help protect the view shed for the <br /> Iaiceshore lots. Leskinen stated in her view the City Engineer and so farth wiLI have plenty to say about <br /> drainage prior to any permits being issued. <br /> Lesldnen statsd she is Iess concerned about the layout and that the developer is right in that he could cram <br /> anotf�er lot in there but he isn't, L,eskinen stated she is struggling wi�h the Block 2 portion of it since ti�e <br /> holes are kind of in the middte of the woods and that will be hard to get back. Leskinen stated she agrees <br /> Page 21 of 37 <br />