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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Monday, October 26, 2015 <br />7:00 o’clock p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br /> <br />Page 12 of 23 <br /> <br />10. #15-3774 MICHAEL STEADMAN ON BEHALF OF IRWIN JACOBS, 1700 <br />SHORELINE DRIVE, PRELIMINARY PLAT – REVIEW CUL-DE-SAC ALTERNATIVES <br />(continued) <br />A typical subdivision of this size generates 162 trips a day, with 12 occurring during the morning peak <br />hour, 17 trips occurring in the evening peak hour, and the rest of the day on average will be eight trips in <br />an hour. Swing stated that is just slightly over one trip an hour from the neighborhood traffic either into <br />or out of the area. Swing stated it is a very small number and will not create an unsafe condition. <br /> <br />Swing stated when reviewing the alternative route, they found that the road currently is approximately 12 <br />feet wide and is proposed to be approximately12 feet wide going down the hillside in the back. Swing <br />stated the hillside itself is quite problematic due to the very steep drop initially of approximately 20 <br />percent grade for the first 80 feet. After that it flattens slightly and continues down at about a six percent <br />grade. When a road plan is put together that will carry construction traffic for the few deliveries that are <br />expected per week, the road still has to be designed in a way that the delivery vehicles can get in and out. <br />Most delivery vehicles will have a very difficult time negotiating steep slopes. <br />Swing stated in this case, the design that they will end up with from the driveway turnaround on <br />Mr. Jacobs’ property to the new cul-de-sac results in a 12 percent grade, which is a very difficult grade <br />for a truck to go down and brake. It is also a very difficult grade to come up, particularly when the <br />pavement is wet or covered with snow. Swing stated in his view it cannot be designed in a way that can <br />be safe since the trucks will not be able to negotiate that kind of slope safely. <br /> <br />Swing stated they further explored the opportunity to access in off of Shoreline Drive, which is a County <br />road. Swing stated they are presuming that would be allowed. In that situation, the vehicles would be in <br />traffic causing other cars on Shoreline Drive to back up, which is an opportunity for a rear-end type <br />collision or other collision. Swing stated by coming in at the driveway entrance on the property, they <br />would be creating an unsafe condition. <br /> <br />Swing indicated when they talked to Hennepin County about the opportunity to gain construction access <br />at this location, they were told by the County it would not be allowed because there is a public street that <br />has been improved to allow for construction traffic. Swing stated they would not be able to get a permit <br />for access. In addition, when they looked at the City’s Codes for an access road along bluffs and steep <br />slopes within the Shoreland District, they found it is not permitted. Swing stated they have looked at it <br />from the standpoint of engineering, whether access would be allowed, and whether it is allowed per City <br />Code, and the answer in all those cases is that this is not a feasible solution. <br /> <br />Levang noted he talked about traffic calming strategies. Levang asked if there are additional traffic <br />calming strategies that could be put into place. <br /> <br />Swing stated the developer has proposed a speed limit for construction traffic at 15 miles per hour, which <br />is slower than what the road is posted for. Swing stated he does not know if much calming is needed <br />since it is a narrow street and vehicles are occasionally parked on the sides. Swing stated they could <br />perhaps add barrels at strategic locations to continue to engrain the idea in the driver’s head that there is <br />something there to look out for but that he would not suggest putting in speed bumps or something along <br />those lines. <br /> <br />Walsh asked if he is saying the alternative road is not feasible or not doable. <br />
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