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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />October 9, 2023 <br />6:00 o'clock p.m. <br />Benson said she is confused why they discussed the Fire Department 2024 budget at a meeting where <br />Crosby was not able to be present because of Veach and Crosby's deep involvement. She asked what <br />would be the reason for another meeting. She said she was trying to understand if the participation of <br />Chief Van Eyll to reduce budget costs to Orono is a condition for approving the fire budget. She asked to <br />quantify what the City of Orono is looking for to approve the budget. <br />Crosby said Orono is paying the majority of the Long Lakes Chief's salary and he should come and talk <br />to them and Orono needs to know what the savings would be if Van Eyll provides services. <br />Veach said this is the reason for another meeting. She does not have conditional terms to approve the <br />budget. If coming to a meeting with a pre-set idea, what's the point, she asked. She said she believes in <br />personal discussions. <br />Benson said her point was that there has to be a tangible and achievable goal going into another meeting <br />to make it worthwhile. She also said it is important that cities not make disparaging remarks about other <br />elected officials and staff of other cities. <br />Crosby said they are here to represent Orono. He said Benson is quick to support a budget for Long Lake <br />but for anything for the Orono Fire Department it is no, no, no. <br />Johnson said he doesn't understand her urgency to approve the budget. They have until the end of the <br />year to get the budget passed and keep talking and communicating, he said. <br />PUBLIC COMMENTS <br />Kim Carswell, 261 Cygnet Place, said she will continue to comment on the City of Orono establishing its <br />own Fire Department until the next election when three Council members will be up for a vote. She said <br />she had four points. The Council has adamantly refused to listen to the citizens of Orono. The benefits of <br />Orono building a Fire Department have not been clearly articulated. They are the bigger City and pay the <br />larger portion. That is accepted. The response times cited without data were disputed by the Long Lake <br />Fire Department with sound data. The costs seem to be more, so she asked what is the true benefit to the <br />citizens of Orono? Mediation sessions did not yield anything as Orono did not go into them constructively <br />as Walsh promised he would, she said, asking how can a City the size of Orono assume such a budget <br />without significant risk? <br />Helen Landgraver, 2570 Thoroughbred Lane, said she was glad she came to this meeting because it was <br />the first meeting where she could actually agree with Crosby. She called out each Council Member <br />individually stating they were elected to represent the citizens of Orono. It is evident after many meetings <br />and continued vocal opposition for forming an Orono Fire Department, most of the Council has not made <br />a compelling case why an independent Orono Fire Department needs to exist. She said she would plead <br />again and again for the Council to actually listen to what the citizenship is saying. She said she <br />appreciates that Walsh seems to have an interest in people not talking over each other. She would like him <br />to apply that standard across the entire Council. <br />Page 8 of 10 <br />