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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />August 28, 2023 <br />6:00 o’clock p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br /> <br />Page 13 of 15 <br /> <br />bond rating would have to drop because this money has to come from somewhere. They said Long Lake <br />fell deficient but there were two City Councils needing to talk as a checks and balance, not a four-person <br />yes-man Council, he said. He predicted again that the City’s bond rating will go down and that taxes will <br />have to go up for this. <br /> <br />Penny Saiki, 2874 Casco Point Road, said these costs will be born primarily by citizens so assessed per <br />house. Not only were the interest rates not considered but also the resident’s insurance costs because there <br />will be an unproven fire department, she said. On one hand, she said, the City wants to be independent but <br />on the other hand is actually depending on everybody else for manpower and equipment. <br /> <br />James Elder, 195 South Brown Road, said the Council displayed tonight that the Orono Fire Department <br />has costs and problems that are fluid and are getting more and more expensive. He said the Council <br />doesn’t have a good plan and is making it up as they go along. The costs they heard tonight involve some <br />clever, off-balance-sheet leases and they are not cheap, he said. The Council has already exceeded the <br />2024 budget and has been very opaque about how they will fund this. Rehabbing the Public Works <br />building will be a lot more expensive than the Council thinks. The City may need more trucks but this <br />Council made it impossible for Long Lake under James Van Eyll to get more than $103,000 per year for <br />equipment; however, tonight spent $2.6 million. He said they are generous with Orono but were <br />pernicious with Long Lake. He does not feel public safety will benefit. He said he wishes they would <br />grow up and go back to mediation and fix this but the only way to fix it may be an election. He added <br />Walsh had burned many bridges and was an embarrassment and expensive. <br /> <br />Ann Cosgrove, 2670 Kelley Parkway, asked if the Council has met with the neighbors facing the old <br />Public Works building and who will deal with the construction. She said she feels the Orono Fire <br />Department is a fiasco and it appears most of the Long Lake Fire Department wants to stay with Long <br />Lake. She said she has lived here since 1968. Long Lake had the Fire Department and Orono had the <br />Police Department and it worked. The City Council listened, the Mayor listened and we were treated <br />respectfully. <br /> <br />Todd Newcomer, Long Lake resident, asked about the age of the ladder truck and when it would need to <br />be replaced. He also discussed response times for paid-on-call and duty crews, saying duty crew fire <br />fighters could live in Minneapolis. The City is supposed to begin servicing Navarre on July 1 but with one <br />of each truck, he asked what would happen if one breaks down. He also asked if the fire fighters would be <br />adequately trained at that point because there is typically a one-year probation period. Every fire fighter <br />should have a second set of turn-outs, he said. That could be hundreds of thousands more dollars that are <br />unaccounted for yet. That is the reason for a lot of concern in the community, he added. <br /> <br />Brad Erickson, Corcoran, said he recently moved and still has a shop in town but hopes to be out of there <br />before the Orono fire station comes into existence because things sound pretty sketchy. He said the Mayor <br />may have gotten the cart before the horse on this one. The City is now talking about a temporary fire <br />station for one to three years for maybe $3 million. Get your numbers straight before heading into <br />something like this, he said. He did not know if those shiny new fire trucks will return the investment, <br />noting there are about 22 actual fire calls per year that need actual fire trucks in Orono. He said the City <br />had a good thing going with Long Lake Fire and just didn’t know it. They wanted to get their own fire <br />department like a bunch of drunken sailors, he said. The ex-president of the United States has been
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