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MINUTES OF THE
<br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
<br />February 27, 2023
<br />6:00 o’clock p.m.
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<br />Jay Nygard, 1386 Rest Point Road, I'm not you, thankfully. I'm completely embarrassed of this Council.
<br />You know how much time you wasted of all these people today talking over minutes as if this should be
<br />an issue, and you're arguing that it should be the same. People don't understand minutes are counted on
<br />for lawsuits, for accuracy and for other things. And when you were sitting here saying we're gonna go
<br />with minutes that might be kind of along the way -- I remember when you specifically Mr. Mayor lied
<br />about me. And I read the minutes. And it wasn't even close to what you had said. Judges and courts don't
<br />watch videos, they look at minutes. And if you guys are going to do a disservice to this community by
<br />doing a disservice to the minutes of these meetings, then you guys are wrong. And what's really
<br />disappointing is that guy right there, Mr. Mattick, who's supposed to be in charge of explaining this stuff
<br />to you, how important it is. Because he don't care about the people of this community. He cares about
<br />defending and making money and doing other BS crap. The minutes are important to this community.
<br />Every single word everybody says, especially at a time like I am right now speaking in this community
<br />are the most important and for anybody to summarize anything is BS, period. These minutes need to be
<br />accounted for word for word, specifically because of when you lied before, Mr. Walsh, specifically
<br />because of people like you. And people like you, Mr. Mattick who don't care about the community and
<br />don't care to protect us and allow people to be defamed, and don't speak up and say, you know what, we
<br />need an accurate accounting of what goes on here. That's what's wrong. Do we get accurate accounting of
<br />what goes on in this community? Change will never come and things will never get better.
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<br />Todd Newcomer, 1070 Old Long Lake Road, said he wanted to speak quietly for a moment. I think I've
<br />spoken with most of you before. Thank you very much for having me here this evening, opening up this
<br />opportunity. I know we don't go back and forth, but I wanted to ask a couple questions. Victoria (Seals),
<br />on January 9 you made a statement and you can clarify if you'd like. The statement was that there weren't
<br />any reserve fire apparatus available in the area. Having done a little research and talked to a number of
<br />firefighters, and then we have two chiefs here with us this evening. They seem to contradict what you had
<br />said that there weren’t adequate fire apparatus. The other part of that was that you had mentioned that the
<br />fire truck that was recently purchased by Orono would be able to supplement and act as an attack fire
<br />apparatus. One of the things I think a lot of people in the public don't understand is there's a huge
<br />difference between a fire engine and a fire truck. A fire truck is not designed to fight fires, it doesn't have
<br />a pump capable of fighting fires or hose capable of fighting fires. It does not do any of that. So it could in
<br />no way, shape or form, take the place of a fire engine, and all of ours are well over 20 years old or close
<br />to. So that being said, just for public clarity, and since this is recorded, fire trucks under our NFPA code
<br />are not allowed to fight fire. I don't think either of the chiefs that are in the room would ever put their line
<br />staff in a building that was on fire behind a fire truck. So that truck can’t be used as a backup fire engine,
<br />we're still in need of fire engines in the community.
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<br />Seals said I know we're not supposed to respond, but you have a long background in firefighting. So
<br />you've got my cell, you know, as we're doing all the things.
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<br />Newcomer said I think everybody here, no matter what, wants the best for the community, wants the best
<br />for everybody, the safety of our kids, the public, the people who pass through who don't even live here.
<br />So that being said, once again, and I know you've heard it, and everybody's heard it, I think the direction
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