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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION <br />November 21, 2022 <br />6:00 o’clock p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br /> <br />Page 6 of 13 <br /> <br />ever be provided for this parcel. In the handout it says “dense vegetation, steep topography, shallow water <br />depths, undesirable lake bottoms” all in description of this particular parcel. He thinks it is relevant and <br />prudent to ask the Applicant what his intended use is and Ressler did ask that as it could potentially be a <br />condition as it goes to the City Council. Ressler does not find the 10 acre parcel to be particularly relevant <br />as any landowner can develop within the guidelines of what is afforded. Regarding access, there are many <br />other places that will be utilized by the fire department before this would be in putting out a fire. <br />Candidly, if the fire department needs to utilize any water on the lake they will go on private property to <br />do so to put the fire out. Ressler would be in support of this vacation for the same reasons he was <br />supportive of the other vacation he spoke of. <br /> <br />Libby thanked the citizens that spoke up. He also noted they are dealing with private, residential sales <br />between individuals and they are here to discuss the vacation of the right-of-ways, not the private <br />property ownership of larger portions of the lot. There are methodologies and negotiations between the <br />owner and the City that can remediate some of the objections, such as the utility easements which can be <br />carried over. He noted facing the Applicant is a gauntlet of scrutiny, approvals, engineering, and they will <br />not be able to willy-nilly acquire these easements and then do whatever they want. The City has a very <br />well-written 2040 Comp Plan that addresses many of the issues that citizens tonight have expressed. <br />Libby shared a concern as he sees a private property ownership in between any access to the marsh that <br />would potentially be an access to the lake. The snowmobiling that is happening there should be done with <br />privileged permission from the property owners that have a sliver of a lot between one of these vacated <br />portions and the marsh. Libby does not disfavor the conditional approval by Staff and thinks it is <br />somewhat prudent. In the case of Hattie Place, he feels it could be remediated or negotiated between the <br />vacation and the Applicant. <br /> <br />Kraemer thinks Ms. Curtis did a great job of presenting the item. When he hears the term “precedent” it is <br />pretty powerful and the City has done this in other places. He is in support. <br /> <br />Chair McCutcheon noted no one really has access to the lake unless they go across private property. <br />Regarding the narrow lanes through the lots, he thinks there is an opportunity to fix them. He does see a <br />need regarding Hattie Place to provide utility which he believes Staff recommended. Chair McCutcheon <br />thinks a garage is on that property and asked the Commissioners if they are in favor of all the vacations or <br />some that should remain. <br /> <br />Libby said in the packet it states the Applicant has proposed maintaining utility easements. <br /> <br />Curtis showed an image on screen, noting Staff recommends vacation of the yellow areas, and are <br />recommending the brown areas be maintained as right-of-way. <br /> <br />Ressler thinks before it goes to the City Council, some research should be done regarding future intent of <br />using that for utilities. If there is no future intent of turning that into a public access, Ressler does not have <br />opposition to it. He would be in support of maintaining that public right-of-way if there is intention of <br />future use. He cautions tabling the item as he is not sure it would change the Commissioners’ opinions <br />besides comments that have been made. <br /> <br />Curtis replied there are utilities in the Hattie Place right-of-way now, including an overhead powerline <br />and a sewer line. It would maintain the easement while vacating the land. <br /> <br />Chair McCutcheon is in favor noting the yellow areas seem to make it cleaner.