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From:Bob Erickson To:Jeremy Barnhart Cc:Denny Walsh; Adam Edwards; "Mark Gronberg" Subject:RE: Gennesaret documents Date:Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:09:17 PM Attachments:Orono Res. # 4266 4-12-99.pdf 1999 cul de sac survey 372 Westlake.pdf 2020 cul de sac survey.pdf Jeremy, 1999 is the year that Orono Resolution #4266 was signed by Mayor Jabbour, a copy of which is attached. Also attached is a portion of the 1999 survey that was a part of that application. The cul de sac standard in 1999 was for a 50 foot radius. However, in a meeting with Mr. Gaffron, he pointed out that the outside radius of the circle was used for parking, so if a 40 foot radius cul de sac was specified, it would be a no parking area, and he was comfortable with that. His reasoning at that time continues to make common sense today as it applies to the East side of Westlake Street, where driveways for 364 and 372 Westlake take up most of the cul de sac frontage on that side. Obviously, parking that blocks a driveway is illegal. No function would be gained with a larger radius, especially in a small area from the smaller of the two frontages. In contrast, the 2020 cul de sac survey measurements are used in the current applications for preliminary and final plats. By using the 50 foot standard for the entire new area included in this year's application, parking around the cul de sac is entirely possible, except for in front of the two driveways on the east and where the 20 foot wide public alley intersects by the lift station. These new parking areas will function well during periods of lift station maintenance, and other uses helpful to neighbors, who have been very positive. Bob Also attached is the -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Barnhart <jbarnhart@ci.orono.mn.us> Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 3:23 PM To: Bob Erickson <boberickson@mediacombb.net> Cc: Denny Walsh <dwalsh2@ci.orono.mn.us>; Adam Edwards <aedwards@ci.orono.mn.us>; Mark Gronberg <markg@gronbergassoc.com> Subject: RE: Gennesaret documents Bob, I understand your position. I am asking for Council direction on the cul de sac issue on Monday. I am obligated to note that the Council did not "approve" the sketch plan, and they did not "approve" a cul de sac configuration when they reviewed the vacation request. They provided non-binding feedback on the sketch plan and the sketch was provided for context of the vacation request. The Council may change their direction for any number of reasons, at any time before approval. The donation of the boulevard reserve is only an issue because you brought City Council Exhibit F LA21-57