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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Monday, November 27, 2006 <br />7:00 o’clock p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br />(5. #05-3135 ALLEN MUNSON, 3165 NORTH SHORE DRIVE, Continued) <br /> <br />McMillan inquired whether any of the existing foundation is going to be utilized. <br /> <br />Munson stated the City would not allow him to use the existing foundation due to the variances that <br />would be required. <br /> <br />White requested a clarification on the fill. <br /> <br />Gaffron stated the applicant is working with the Mandels to obtain an easement in order to create a <br />drainage swale to direct the drainage more in its natural flow across the Mandel property. Gaffron <br />indicated the Mandels are not opposed to the easement. <br /> <br />Gaffron stated there is an underground garage with a circular driveway above it. The current survey <br />suggests that there will be grading right up to the lot line rather than five feet off of the property line. The <br />impact of stopping the grading five feet from the property line would result in a ditch along the property <br />line and would have some impact on how the runoff would flow past the neighbor’s retaining wall. <br /> <br />Kellogg stated he did briefly review the grading plans prior to tonight’s meeting and that it appears the <br />proposed drainage would work but that there is a question on the exact location of the retaining wall. The <br />fill brought in would be lower than the top of the wall but would raise the grade on the Munson side. <br />Kellogg recommended the location of the retaining wall be clarified. <br /> <br />Gaffron stated the City has a code that restricts grading within five feet of the property line except if it is <br />to create a drainage swale. The issue is that there is filling proposed up against the lot line to create the <br />drainage swale rather than cutting away the dirt. Gaffron stated the elevation would still be lower on the <br />Munson property. <br /> <br />White inquired how high the fill would go. <br /> <br />Munson stated it would be approximately two feet higher and that he is keeping it one foot below the <br />retaining wall. <br /> <br />McMillan inquired whether there would be erosion without the fill. <br /> <br />Kellogg stated that is the only way that a swale could be established in that area and that the erosion will <br />eventually go away once vegetation becomes established. <br /> <br />McMillan commented it appears that without the fill there would be a big drop-off on the one side of the <br />structure. <br /> <br />Munson stated some water from the property to the north drains onto his property and that he is <br />attempting to correct that situation. <br /> <br />White stated in a situation where there is grading close to the lot line, the Council generally requires the <br />permission of the adjoining property owner. <br /> <br />Murphy stated he is hesitant to approve a six-foot variance into the average lakeshore setback even if <br />there is an agreement by the affected adjoining property owner. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br />PAGE 5 of 10 <br />Item #04 - CC Agenda - 11/27/06 <br />Approval of Council Meeting Minutes 11/27/06 [Page 5 of 10]