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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Thursday, August 24, 2020 <br />6:00 o’clock p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br /> <br />Page 5 of 13 <br /> <br />Walsh said it’s certainly a unique piece of property and that is part of the challenge they are trying to <br />grapple with, because even when they divide the land it doesn’t solve all the issues one normally wants to <br />solve in a subdivision. He said especially with the weird configuration of the land and the width issues, <br />some of that is going to suffer. Walsh stated it looks like the Applicant has come a long way and he <br />recognizes what Johnson said regarding whether you can grab land across the water; whether that’s reality <br />or not, he is not sure. <br /> <br />Mr. Gamble said this is all one lot and he doesn’t know how they look at the land under the lagoon, it’s a <br />contiguous lot through that lagoon and it isn’t grabbing land from somewhere else to make it work, it is <br />taking the lot that is actually there. <br /> <br />Walsh said it’s completely separate, and it would be like having a pond and you can’t get to the other <br />land, noting it’s kind of like Fletcher’s, as they have the little island and you can’t get there unless you get <br />on a boat and get to the island to get picked up. <br /> <br />Mr. Gamble said he remembered the bridge they put in once and said he thinks they had to take it out as it <br />blocked the waterway. <br /> <br />Walsh said technically they could almost say the same thing, if it’s one parcel and one PID (Property <br />Identification Number) and the property owner could say they own everything underneath the water and <br />it’s connected so it’s a similar thing. He said when it’s completely displaced by water it’s hard to make <br />that mental connection. <br /> <br />Printup said between Togo Road and Northern Avenue they ran lots going through a wetland, rather than <br />making the wetland an outlot, so the properties were a little bit smaller. Instead what happened is the <br />properties went right through. He asked how you would get to the other side, he doesn’t know. However, <br />the properties sold and he thinks they are being built on to this day, noting it’s a very strange setup down <br />there. <br /> <br />Walsh said the Applicant is very close to having it all work and then they wouldn’t even need to be here <br />before the Council. He said he asks himself the question, knowing that this has a couple of things that <br />don’t quite meet what a subdivision would be without having a variance, what is the reason he would say <br />OK to this and he wouldn’t say OK to anything else. What is creating that practical difficulty that would <br />say this is the exception to the rule because it’s so unique, for example to say the Applicant has gotten <br />95% done but just can’t get the last 5%. Walsh said he doesn’t know if he has that answer yet as this is so <br />unique. <br /> <br />Crosby stated he thinks the land on the other side of the water is something he could not get past. He <br />thinks of his own lot and he is on a lagoon, but it would be like him trying to own a piece on the other <br />side, it just doesn’t make sense. There is no land to get there. <br /> <br />Johnson said even if they take the lagoon out and someone comes to the Council and says they have a <br />non-conforming lot and they’d like to subdivide it, they would say no because they will not allow a <br />further intensification of something that is already non-conforming. He said this is a terrific piece of real <br />estate and they have exceptional privilege for hardcover, noting he saw the hardcover calculations for one <br />but not the other. He said if they run the calculation for just the South part, they are over 25% hardcover <br />for the amount of area they have there. Johnson stated that it comes down to the fact that it’s non-
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