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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCEUPLANNING COMNIISSION <br />JOINT WORK SESSION <br />Monday, March 26, 2012 <br />5:00 o'clock p.m. • <br />McMillan stated she also does not like the board spacing option with less than 1/4 inch since that seems to <br />be getting too picky. McMillan indicated she would like to give credit for either 100 square feet of <br />permeable feet of patio pavers or 100 square feet of decking and not doing the 50 percent credit. If you <br />have a lakeshore home, that would allow you 100 square feet without it being counted towards hardcover. <br />Rahn commented a quarter inch spacing used to be very typical but that has kind of gone away. <br />McMillan stated she does not feel they need five tiers and that perhaps three should be the maximum. <br />The DNR allows 25 percent regardless of lot size. McMillan stated one of the problems the City has had <br />with lots that are not quite located on the lakeshore is that their property drains to properties that are on <br />the lake. <br />Bremer commented it also depends on the topography of the lot. Some lots are quite a distance from the <br />water but have had drainage problems. If the back of the lot is not regulated as much and there are larger <br />structures, in that area, it could create a worse situation.,,. <br />Rahn stated you cannot assume the topography slopes down to the lake because it may slope toward the <br />adjoining property. Rahn asked what the 35 percent hardcover would be in relationship to the structural <br />coverage. <br />Gozola stated structural coverage would be a separate issue. • <br />Rahn commented that goes hand -in -hand with his concerns about the performance based design. The <br />City has seen over the years that builders will do whatever they can to gain a square foot of space, and <br />under the performance style it will turn into a hardcover game where they will try to gain as much as they <br />can. <br />Rahn stated he also understands there has to be some method of enforcement and that the performance <br />based option talked about a voluntary fee and yearly inspections. Rahn stated he has an issue with that <br />since new owners of the property will be unaware of that aspect. <br />Bremer asked how the City can communicate to the long -term residents the new regulations. <br />Gozola stated the City could go to the people who submitted applications previously and wanted to do a <br />big project but felt that these regulations shut down what they wanted to do and the City could explain <br />that they did not necessarily want to stop that project. The new regulations would allow you increased <br />hardcover if you are willing to show us that you will implement certain measures to ensure the City is still <br />meeting their goal of protecting the lake. The new regulations will make it easier for people to do what <br />they want to do but putting regulations in place to monitor the hardcover and the lake. <br />McMillan stated the performance based option is the most complicated option because you have to rely <br />on an engineer to get the added hardcover. Engineers were big on curb and gutter 20 years ago and now <br />they have gone away from that. There are some engineering techniques that are felt to be good today but <br />may not be found as effective 10 -15 years from now. <br />Rahn commented the new regulations may bring a whole new round of applications and that he is not sure • <br />whether that is good or bad. Rahn stated he likes the prescriptive option since it is very similar to what <br />the City is currently doing and allows for some of the things that the residents would like. <br />Page 4 of 9 <br />