01-19-1999 Planning Commission Minutes

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ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FOR JANUARY 19, 1999 III (#2) #2449 JOHN VOGT/MIKE HILBELINK, HAVING AN INTEREST IN 3020 WATERTOWN ROAD - Continued Smith said she is concerned about the extension of Crystal Creek Road to serve two more lots. She can see the thought to provide a connection between Crystal Creek Road and Wear Lane. An alternative would be access directly off Watertown Road for all three lots. That alternative does not take future development into account and would land lock the lots to the north. Schroeder said the ability to connect Wear Lane and Crystal Creek Road should be retained. He believes that access to the lots in the north should be taken into consideration. He favors extending Outlot B to provide access to the north or to Wear Lane. Smith clarified that Schroeder favors extending Crystal Creek Road to serve the additional lots. Schroeder said he believes that is what was originally contemplated and the traffic from two more lots on Crystal Creek will not be dramatic. Lindquist agreed with Schroeder. He favors leaving the cul-de-sac where it is now located to serve the two new lots. He would also leave the outlot for future access to the north. McMillan said that the intent of planning in 1991 was to provide access to the property to the north. Schroeder said that it is not his intention to connect the two roads, but 30 years from now it could be possible. Smith said that possibility should not be negated. IIIMcMillan thinks two lots could be accessed from Watertown Road and one from Crystal Creek if the lot lines were redrawn and a driveway easement would be necessary. Stoddard said the City does not encourage easements. McMillan questioned whether one of the lots would be defined as a back lot. Van Zomeren said that whenever a lot is not served by a public or private road and it is served by an outlot, it is considered to be a back lot. Smith said she does not favor access on Watertown Road. Lindquist said he favors platting a cul-de-sac off from the outlot. Schroeder asked how Alan Carlson would access the lots to the north without this subdivision. Alan Carlson said he would have had to look at land to the east for access. Schroeder asked if an outlot could be put on lots 6 and 7. Van Zomeren said it could be put on lots 6 and 7. Smith said there seems to be consensus to extend the outlot and the applicants have said the accessory structures can be addressed. She asked about the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District letter and the issue regarding the stormwater permit. • Van Zomeren said she would like to hear from the applicants regarding this issue because it looks like the stormwater ponding would be in the Crystal Creek addition. Page 7