10-16-1995 Planning Commission Minutes

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�J MINUTES OF THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 16, 1995 ( #10 - #2074 John and Kristen Gehring - Continued) Hawn moved, Schroeder seconded, to recommend approval of the retaining wall with Staff recommendations. Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0. As for the garage, Lindquist asked if the Commission was able to approve a garage without understanding where the pond would be located. Peterson said he had the same concern. Mabusth said this was a recent issue. Staff is unable to issue a permit without seeing an approved grading plan by the Corp of Engineers and the MCWD. The applicant said he was told by the MCWD that preliminary approval would be required from the City before the MCWD would look at the issue. Gehring asked if the City would approve the application for the garage with the condition that the required permits were received from the Corp of Engineers and the MCWD. Mabusth said she was not comfortable with bringing the application before the Council with questions unanswered. The applicant said it was his plan to build the garage this fall. Schroeder commented that the City Engineer would need to approve the drainage plans. Peterson said the Council would not approve the garage without the permits in hand from the Corp of Engineers and the MCWD. The applicant noted that the meeting of the MCWD was scheduled for October 9, and the Council meeting was scheduled for October 13. Mabusth questioned whether Palm would need to be jointly involved with the creation of the pond. Palm said it was his understanding that his part would be only where the pipe is located. Mabusth said the retaining pond would possibly be located on the Palm property too. Palm said he was unsure of this and thought the pipe would carry the drainage to the swale on his property. Peterson noted that the solution may be a swale, but it was possible that a swale may not be enough, and a pond would be required. Lindquist was of the opinion that the pond should be a joint proposal by both Gehring and Palm. Mabusth noted that Staff will be working with both parties on storm water management. Lindquist asked if conceptual approval could be granted. Mabusth said matching retention areas on the property would be required to compensate for the flood plain. Schroeder said if Staff could continue to work with the application, was the Commission and Staff comfortable with turning the proposal over to the City Engineer in this form. Peterson voiced some concern with the size of the structure. Mabusth clarified that it was not an oversized structure and did meet the required setbacks. The excess hardcover is in the 0 -75' zone and not in the 75 -250' zone. Lindquist moved, Hawn seconded, to approve the construction of the 3 -car garage with the understanding that the application not proceed to Council until it has been approved by • the City's Public Works Director and City Engineer, the MCWD, and the Corp of Engineers. 16