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• <br />• <br />• <br />MINUTES OF THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION <br />MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 16, 1995 <br />( #8 - #2065 Scotch Pine Lane - Continued) <br />Gaffron reported that at the last meeting of the Planning Commission, the application was <br />discussed and tabled awaiting review by the Long Lake Fire Department regarding how <br />the vacation of Scotch Pine would affect the ability of the fire department in fighting a fire <br />on these properties. New exhibits as part of this package include a review of the City's <br />policy and philosophy regarding public roads, the BRW Fire Protection review of the <br />traffic and environmental conditions, and a revised preliminary plat. The Marfields and <br />Hills would share a driveway from the existing cul -de -sac with each party increasing the <br />size of their parcels with the vacation of the road. The vacation and replat would enable <br />the Hills to have a continuous piece of property to the lake. Mr. Toles would access his <br />residence through a new driveway from CoRd 51. There would occur some narrowing of <br />the driveway serving the Marfields and Hills. <br />Mike Brown of the Long Lake Fire Department was in attendance and reported on the <br />concerns of the fire department. Brown said the department requires a certain road width <br />to allow for staging for trucks to get past each other. The roadway also needs to be able <br />to handle 40,000 lbs. of equipment. Brown said with the street as it is, there is room for <br />the fire department to operate. The trucks would not be able to access the portion of the <br />driveway to the Toles residence. The Hill property with driveway as proposed will allow <br />the street to remain the same with the entry area narrower. The Marfields, while asking to <br />narrow their driveway entrance, have been asked by the fire department to maintain the <br />road at a wider width, which will enable fire trucks and their RV to gain access to the <br />house. The fire department would like the driveway to the Toles residence to be wide <br />enough to enable personnel to walk around the area. Brown said he would need a road <br />width of 16' able to support a weight of 40,000 - 50,000 lbs. This would be asking more <br />than required by the City, and he would accept the same as a City street. The City code <br />requires a road to handle 46,000 lbs. Brown noted that this is the first time the fire <br />department has been asked what needs they have for a private driveway. <br />Peterson asked Brown, if he had a choice, would he keep the road as it now exists. <br />Brown said he is not in favor of cul -de -sacs as the residence becomes cut off once the <br />equipment is set up. The fire department would benefit from gaining a wider road, and he <br />is in approval of eliminating the cul -de -sac and the proposal as revised. Hill noted that the <br />revision involves maintaining some of the driveway blacktop. <br />Gaffron reported that besides the fire issue, there is the issue of subdivision performance <br />standards. The properties contain three building sites and access to the lake. By today's <br />standards, three lots in a rural zone require a private road. Gaffron said he is concerned <br />with moving standards backwards with approval of this application. The applicants have <br />provided a response on why they feel the proposal is appropriate and unique to the <br />surroundings. <br />9 <br />