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Curtis stated in order to make the Huelers' lot conforming, they would need to extend the cul-de-sac or have the Huelers <br />connect to the new road because they are currently a back lot. Curtis noted they would not need to do that if they <br />connected the Dunkleys' home to Walters Port. <br />Vogstrom stated that is another option they are looking at. <br />14. LA18-55 PAUL VOGSTROM OB/O WILLIAM AND SUE DUNKLEY, 2709 WALTERS <br />PORT LANE, SKETCH PLAN — Continued <br />Crosby asked if it would be conforming if they connected to Pence. <br />Curtis stated she would have to see a plan. <br />Vogstrom stated they can probably meet that because they have four acres to work with. <br />Walsh stated the line of sight also has to be taken into consideration. <br />Vogstrom stated it does not make sense to have a home in front of two homes and that there has to be a happy medium. <br />Vogstrom noted they do not have final house plans and that they are here for feedback from the City Council. <br />Greg Hueler asked if this is granted and they were given a subdivision, whether they would then go through a separate <br />process to get a building permit and variances. <br />Walsh stated variances start with the Planning Commission and that this is a sketch plan so the City Council will not be <br />granting anything right now. <br />Barnhart stated ultimately the applicants would come back with a subdivision application, which may require some <br />variances, and if they wanted to build a home that encroaches into the average lakeshore setback, that would probably be a <br />separate application where they would have to justify the practical difficulties. <br />Kelly Hueler stated there has consistently been work done outside of the permits and a number of times the City has had to <br />issue stop work permits. Hueler stated their experience has been that while it might be on paper, that is not what happens <br />on a daily basis. Hueler stated while the lot the Dunkleys purchased is only supposed to use Walters Port, it is not practical <br />or reasonable to think that those three homes will not end up using Pence Lane. Hueler stated one of the Dunkleys' goals <br />has been to have a private driveway into their residence, and that if the City Council is going to grant those variances, they <br />have to think about everyday reality. <br />Walsh noted the City can attach conditions to the variances but that they cannot say they are not of good character so they <br />cannot give them the variance. Walsh stated the City Council can address concerns with reasonable conditions. <br />Kelly Hueler commented this is about fact and that frequently there has been work done outside of the permits. Hueler <br />stated they live there and are experiencing it on a day-to-day basis and that she brought it to the Council's attention so they <br />can consider it. <br />Crosby asked how far their driveway goes down Pence Lane. <br />Kelly Hueler indicated to the property line and that the rest is easement. <br />Crosby asked how owns the rest of Pence Lane. <br />14. LAI 8-55 PAUL VOGSTROM O/B/O WILLIAM AND SUE DUNKLEY, 2709 WALTERS <br />PORT LANE, SKETCH PLAN — Continued <br />Kelly Hueler indicated Mr. and Mrs. Dunkley do and that they have a one-third undivided interest. <br />Eric Vogstrom, Casco Point Road, stated the Dunkleys have lived there since 1984 and the Habermans eventually sold <br />their property to the Dunkleys due to the required upkeep. Vogstrom stated the lot was somewhat junky with some <br />concrete, other debris, and downed trees. The Dunkleys' main objective was to obtain some more land. When the Huelers <br />found out the Dunkleys purchased the Haberman property, <br />