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MINUTES OF ORONO COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 8, 1990 <br />• PARR DEDICATION FEES CONTINUED <br />that we have any finding showing how much is needed. As far as <br />the money that would be a developers concern, what somebody did <br />was to analyze what the fee would be under our present system and <br />what it would be under the 10% system. As Mr. Flint indicated, <br />10% is apparently 10% of the value at the time of preliminary <br />plat application, taking into account its value at subdivision. <br />So, its an amorphous position, it's not the prior tax value, and <br />it's not what it will be after the roads go in, it's what it is <br />taking into account the fact that it's about to be turned into <br />something like a 17 -lot subdivision. It's going to cause a bit <br />of a problem with the Council having to come up with that value. <br />It seems that some other cities have taken care of that <br />procedure. So assuming we can get by that, the issue is how much <br />money will that generate. What the Park Commission did is look <br />at the old value and then looked at 4 recent subdivisions. I <br />would suggest, from being involved with the last two major <br />transactions in the City, involving large parcels of land, that <br />these values that were placed on these 4 subdivisions are far too <br />low. They are low by a factor of 3 or 4. As they (the Park <br />Commission) note here, in one case, the old fee would have been <br />$1,000.00 and would go to $18,000.00. In another case it goes <br />from $1,000 to $8,000, from $2,000 to $11,000, and from $1,200 to <br />$5,000.00. I suggest from my knowledge of the values of these <br />• properties, that if the Park Commission would have had a chance <br />to talk to a few people involved in this, you will find that <br />these values are far in excess of what they thought they were. <br />You are going to generate perhaps 3 or 4 times more money than <br />you thought you were. For example, there was one property in <br />Orono, Foxbend, that recently paid their fee, I imagine they paid <br />$3,400.00. I would suggest that under the 10% fee, they would <br />have paid about $100,000.00. This is a huge increase, and I <br />think that you should take into account the fact that 10% is <br />probably going to develop a lot more money than the Park <br />Commission thought it would develop. I'm not sure that we need <br />that kind of money. I would like to see some kind of information <br />on how we are going to use this kind of money and how much is <br />needed before I would want to see us take that kind of money from <br />the residents. <br />Point two I would make is that I think that it is in fact <br />Orono residents who will be paying this fee and I think that <br />there should be some kind of Public Hearing on that point. When <br />there is a subdivision, that lot price that has been arrived at <br />is rather inflexible. There is only a certain range of prices <br />that the consumers will pay, and as a consequence, the fee gets <br />moved back down to the property owner. It gets moved to the guy <br />in Orono who owns that property and that's true whether the <br />fellow who owns it is going to subdivide it himself or if he is <br />going to sell it to a developer. The developer is going to take <br />a look at what the public is going to pay for the lot and he <br />• <br />decides what his risks are, how much he has to buy the property <br />for in order to come out right. So, once again, it's that Orono <br />property owner who is going to pay that fee. I suggest that it <br />is the property owners in fact that own the 2 -acre or 5 -acre <br />4 <br />
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