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MINUTES OF THE <br /> ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING <br /> Monday,November 17,2014 <br /> 7:00 o'clock p.m. <br /> Gaffron stated as it relates to private roads, from Stubbs Bay Road in,Jacobs Mill Road is a privately <br /> owned road. Gaffron stated if the City wanted to force the issue,there are underlying easements that <br /> could be utilized but the easement document says there has to be a payment of fair market value to the <br /> owner of the property. In addition,there would need to be an agreement on the part of the Jacobs Mill <br /> homeowners association that this property would become part of that homeowners association. <br /> Gaffron stated if the City was to take Jacobs Mill Road over as a public road,which has happened only <br /> once before,the City would need to start maintaining it, and to some extent it opens up a Pandora's Box. <br /> Gaffron indicated the City also does not want to incur costs in providing access to new development and <br /> that Staff has made it clear to the Whalens that the City is not likely to expend any dollars for access to <br /> their property. Gaffron stated in his view the solution to bring access from the south is a good one. <br /> Leskinen asked if Hennepin County or Mn/Dot has an obligation to provide access. <br /> Gaffron stated it is a long story but that Mn/Dot had initially agreed to make the Whalens whole. Gaffron <br /> indicated Staff had a meeting approximately one month ago with Mn/Dot and Hennepin County about <br /> properties they were going to turn back to the City as part of the Highway 12 project. Mn/Dot has said in <br /> writing and verbally that because of the configuration of County Road 6,the fact that it is a turn back, and <br /> the fact that they did not actually touch the Whalen property,they are not going to change the <br /> configuration of the intersection or grant access. <br /> Thiesse asked if there is an embankment there. <br /> Gaffron indicated there is. <br /> Thiesse asked if the City has any criteria for the super-long driveway. <br /> Gaffron stated any driveway that is longer than 600 feet would need to be looped at the end as well as a <br /> 20-foot clear space to drive in. Gaffron stated the City does have some standards for a long driveway and <br /> that the fire department will be reviewing that. <br /> Landgraver noted a portion of the driveway will be going over the edge of the wetland. <br /> Schoenzeit stated if it needs to hold a fire truck, it would not be a residential standard. <br /> Gaffron stated the width standard is 20 feet so they can pass vehicles,but that at some point in the road <br /> there could be a bump-out constructed. <br /> Schoenzeit stated the weight of the fire trucks is also an issue. <br /> Leskinen asked if the cul-de-sac would need to be constructed to a certain size. <br /> Gaffron indicated the road would need to be 24 to 28 feet in width and that the cul-de-sac would need to <br /> have an 80-foot width in a 100-foot corridor. <br /> Leskinen asked if the wetlands have been delineated. <br /> Gaffron stated the wetlands have been delineated. <br /> Page 20 of 23 <br />