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Melanie Curtis From: Melanie Curtis Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 3:43 PM To: Lili McMillan (lilim@mac.com) Cc: Jessica Loftus Subject: FW: Temporary Signage for 3435 Shoreline Drive Attachments: admin@ci.orono.mn.us_20110422_131320.pdf; 100_0539.jpg; The old Crib Sign 033.jpg Importance: High Lili I want to give you a head's up on a situation with Barry Tanner& Navarre Lanes. I don't know if he will contact you over the weekend or not. But here is an email chain from today— read bottom up also the attached PDF was included in the original email. ***** As you know, Barry more than maxed the allowed temporary signage days for 2010 and then used up the allowed temporary signage for Navarre Lanes at the beginning of the year with a permit from Jan 1 — Feb 10 at which time he made an appeal to the Council and through another tenant was granted 40 additional days. The Council's allowance to utilize additional signage days from another retail tenant in the building was premised upon the installation of permanent signage when weather conditions allowed. We issued another temporary sign permit using days from Navarre Liquors for an expiration of April gtn A ground sign can be installed now as the frost has left the soil. A permanent wall sign could have been installed at any time. We informed Barry that permits will not be issued for additional temporary signage for Navarre Lanes until Jan 1, 2012 as the days for 2011 have been exhausted. He applied for another permit to use temporary sign days from the garage stall spaces in the lower part of the building. We denied the permit based on the fact that his days have been exhausted. I spoke with him and apparently he misunderstood the piece about sharing signage between tenants. He thought he could continue to do so indefinitely. I explained to him that the Code doesn't allow it, but it had been done on occasion in the past so the Council felt comfortable allowing it to help alleviate the issue with winter construction. (As an aside, these spaces are private garages or loading spaces solely for the use of a tenant and are not considered a business or retail tenant— mini-storage is not a permitted use, commercial storage is not a permitted use in the B-1 district nor is the square footage of these garage spaces accounted for in the parking needs of the site as they are not retail spaces.) He made an application before opening last fall in October for 3 '�permanent"signs. One of the signs couldn't be permitted as it was a ground sign that didn't meet the monument standards; one sign was meant to re-face an existing Crib sign on a pole (shown in attached photo); and the 3�d sign was a wall sign. We realize now that the��permanent" wall sign was a banner and is considered temporary. He stated the sign material was vinyl. Our mistake was in assuming he meant rigid vinylas some signs are made with a rigid vinyl material. They do not last as long but we thought it was his attempt to save some money. The vinyl sign is essentially a banner screwed to the wall. We did not and will not penalize him for this as it was something that should have been clarified with the permit application review but he still must remove it and install a permanent wall sign which meets Code. The sign he was proposing as a re-face of an existing pole sign wasn't installed as we permitted. It is now being used as the directional sign he has affixed to the light pole (attached photo) and is considered temporary. The short story is that he needs to install permanent signage. I will be happy to talk with you about this if you have questions. - Melanie Melanie Curtis Planning &Zoning Coordinator City of Orono 2750 Kelley Parkway 1